Where do Churches fit into Your Life In 3D?

The following message may not be important to you at all. But it is an important question to some Christians and this is why I address it right away in this First Time Visitor TOUR to Pokyra.

Compare it again with the message above explaining, “Where does Pokyra fit into Your Life In 3D?”

Christian Churches serve their purpose.

If you choose to spend your time at these places they are serving their purpose somewhere in your Priority Area #5 Neighborhood/Network of relationships and in one of your possibly many Outside Stations (Outside your Home Stations … or PLACES you choose to live life Outside your Home life).

These are OPTIONS to choose or not choose for your own reasons and your own Meaningful Missions you are developing in life with our Master Jesus … the LEADER and HEAD of His “church” by His Spirit still today (Colossians 1:13-18). I personally choose not to regularly attend organized churches today but I did attend organized church meetings during the 1980’s and much of the 1990’s. You can learn more about my own story at this Guest Website.

I do warn all Christians no matter where you choose to live life with Jesus in this world regarding what I believe to be Jesus’ scariest message He ever gave to anyone who calls Him, “Lord, Lord,” in Matthew 7:21-23 and 7:24-27.

Read it for yourself as soon as possible using your Bible because you will see it regularly referenced throughout Pokyra.

I believe Jesus is not against churches and diverse cultures chosen by His Church but He is against anyone who claims to be part of His Spiritual Church He is still leading by His Spirit but these “Christians” disagree with Him in both practice and spiritual fruit coming out of their life (Matthew 7:15-20; 2 Corinthians 11:2-4).

“Church as usual” Christians promote a gospel and practice without a “literal” Holy Spirit Personal relationship with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in Heaven as Jesus modelled it for all His disciples (1 John 2:3-6).

Jesus is still leading His Church made up of individuals who literally “know” Him Personally by His Spirit Person (Jesus the “Master” of His disciples and “King” of the Kingdom of Heaven – among many other mysterious Titles) and most importantly those He literally “knows” by His Person (Holy Spirit) sent to us from His throne in Heaven (John 10:1-42; 5:36-47; 1 John 2:3-6).

Christianity is truly all about the Spirit going on behind the individual at any given time and not the human-made cultures, “church buildings” or “church organizations” anyone builds around Jesus’ name (Matthew 6:19-21; 6:24; 16:21-28; Luke 9:55-56).

The point I am making here surrounds the reasons John was teaching people just as Jesus taught us in Matthew 7:15-20 to “do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1).

Jesus our Master explained what it means to follow Him and how that could be “discerned” or “tested” as John just explained it. He said it can be tested by “the fruit” coming out of the lives of anyone in John 15:1-8. This is the “test” Jesus said, “By this is My Father glorified, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples” (John 15:8). Read Matthew 6:1-7:27 for the definitive teaching on what Jesus means by “fruit” and therefore what John explained confirming Jesus’ teaching in 1 John 3:24-4:1.

Discerning “fruit” is how Jesus Himself looks at our life to “prove” you and I “to be My disciples” (as He put it in John 15:1-8).

I have learned from my Master Jesus that the “fruit” He likes most has NOTHING to do with going to what we call “church” (traditional or modern versions) meetings or belonging to a church orgnization as a “member”. Jesus does care about the “fruit” coming out of our lives every day and what is REALLY going on “in spirit and truth” (John 4:19-26) in our Natural Habitat lived in the world Jesus lived in too (John 17:13-26). See Priority Areas #1 to #4 to help explain the Relationships we have in our Natural Habitat “as You did send Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world” (especially in our own HOME).

My own “Christian” Culture is much more practical than religious/traditional Culture. Just spend time going through my Guest Website to learn my unique chosen culture that I use effectively in my own Natural Habitat where my own Priority Area Relationships #1-#4 are practically lived each day of the week.

I teach you here at Pokyra how I learned from my Master Jesus about what is called His “fruit” of His Spirit and how He teaches all of His Disciples (who are open to hear it – Revelation 2:7 and 1 John 2:26-27) to NEUTRALIZE Human Culture and any “antichrist” “spirit” too. I mean even NEUTRALIZING Religious Culture if it has been hijacked by a “spirit of the world” and not the Holy Spirit as Jesus explains it in Matthew 15:1-20 and as John explains in 1 John 3:24-4:1.

Christianity is ALL ABOUT the “spirit” operating behind a person or behind the culture a person uses and NOT the person or the culture by itself.

What does Jesus care about? Jesus cares about what He said, “This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far away from Me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men” (Matthew 15:8-9). This is confirmed by His teaching in Matthew 6:19-21.

Even the best of us (like Peter or any of the original Disciples in the Bible) can be “demonized” or momentarily influenced by an “unclean spirit” so we all must be on guard as John warned us in 1 John 3:24-4:1 to “test the spirits” based on Jesus’ own teachings to His Disciples in Matthew 16:21-26 and Luke 9:51-56.

All must answer to Jesus in at least 3D’s that I teach you throughout Pokyra just as John explained in Revelation 2:1-3:22 and Jeremiah prophesied in Jeremiah 17:9-10.

Picture it like Paul helped us picture it as being much like a regular check-up or “examination” by Jesus ALONE by His Spirit in 1 Corinthians 4:1-5 until “the time” when the Final Judgment will complete the “examination” of us all (Revelation 20:11-15).

When I make the often used comment, “Pokyra is not ‘church as usual,'” what I specifically mean has everything to do with the promotion of some religious practice and expected religious “fruit” still DISCONNECTED from Jesus’ literal Kingdom by His Spirit (D1– “every word that comes out of the mouth of God” – Matthew 4:4; Matthew 7:21-27; 1 John 2:3-6) and Jesus’ literal gracious Gift by His Spirit (D2 – Galatians 4:21-5:18; Philippians 3:9).

You will find out in this First Time Visitor TOUR a bit of my own experience with Jesus’ revelation of this Practice and Fruit Problem in His Church.

His Problem has everything to do with God’s own view of His Church in Micah 7 … but I tell you that here just to make the point of how DEEPLY important I believe the Practice and Fruit Problem is to Jesus regarding His Church even TODAY as you read this sentence.

What might “church as usual” look like today?

I challenge everyone to read Jesus’ words in John 6 (all of the chapter) and to take the same “spiritual” “John 6 Test” Jesus was giving them all to see if you either make it through STILL FOLLOWING JESUS like the original disciples or are more like, “many of His disciples … were not walking with Him anymore”.

When put to the test by Jesus and His Holy Spirit, those playing “church as usual” are found to be not truly interested in “walking with Him anymore”.

They are not interested in really passing the John 6 test as Jesus presents it to them in His “not of this world” or other “spiritual” dimension ways by His Holy Spirit. Go ahead! Take the test in John 6 (click HERE for a link to John 6 at Biblegateway.com)!

Did you pass it and truly and honestly choose to continue on with a Holy Spirit or “not of this world” relationship with Him?

Those playing “church as usual” will be those saying to Jesus, “This is a difficult statement; who can listen to it?” and “As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew, and were not walking with Him anymore” (John 6:60, 66).

If you want another Biblical example look no further than how the Jewish Pharisees Jesus encountered were regularly persecuting Jesus instead of promoting and receiving Jesus sent to them from the Father in Heaven.

Instead, they were regularly promoting a “false” DISCONNECTED relationship with God from their hearts and spirit in 1D even as God Himself was standing right in front of them in 3D representing His Kingdom of Heaven and His Spirit of God REAL THING connection with the Father in Heaven (read all His dialogues with the Pharisees on your own like this one in Matthew 16:1-12).

The Pharisees (including Paul before he stopped persecuting Jesus and became one of His best Ambassadors for Him in 3D the world has ever known) were regular persecutors of Him and His Church.

I mean the Church He always was and still is leading in 3D and not their “church” they were leading without Him.

Evidently, there were always Jews throughout HisStory that believed in and maintained a faith for what Jesus was going to be offering them that was “by faith” and “not of this world” (Galatians 4:19-5:1).

Now apply this same principle of being OPEN and not closed to God providing for them something OUTSIDE their religions developed without Him from the Kingdom of Heaven and you see how some Christians still not OPENING or OPEN can take on the same characteristics as an unbelieving Jew when Jesus came to fulfill His “God will provide” Promise to Abraham and His People the Jews.

If a Christian today is bound and determined to NOT be OPEN to a literal CONNECTION in 3D with Jesus it has the same exact results:  a 1D spiritual DISCONNECTION that Jesus called “lawlessness” in regards to His Kingdom (Matthew 7:21-23).

The same “church as usual” practice and fruit will be easy to discern with His Holy Spirit Helper so you too can “test the spirits” behind anyone attending “organized churches” or Christians like me living life outside these Christian organizations in any other world environments (Acts 9:1-7).

Like I said above, I personally regularly attended “organized church” during the 80’s and much of the 90’s so they do serve a purpose when done right serving the CONNECTION of disciples of Jesus in 3D.

But God has led me by His Spirit to live outside these sometimes limiting structures and “systems” they have created around God to live free in other cultures in the world “in the same manner as He walked” free in this world.

Hear me clearly:  I am still abiding in the same Jesus by the same Spirit of God that all of Jesus’ disciples are required to live by but I now live MORE for my highest Priority Area relationships according to their Priority directed by “the will of My Father who is in heaven” (Matthew 7:21) and no longer by someone else’s Priorities or “will” that may differ with God’s or mine in any season of life.

It really is that simple.

For example, I no longer neglect quality time each week with my Wife and my Family (Priority Areas #2 and #3) because of some other expected #5 Priority Area relationship commitment already scheduled at another organized place and time.

The truth is that Churches often come with many membership expectations that affect how you manage your Weekly Routines of life … much like any Club outside Christianity might have for their “members”.

Some even go so far as to say God is commanding you and I to go to their meetings and some even claim that if you do not join them as “members” of their organization you are being disobedient to God.

I believe God disagrees with them when they present their meetings of service to God in this way.

Actually, this practice of misrepresenting God could get them and those who follow them instead of Him “first place in everything” disqualified regarding being allowed to be “part” of anything He is still doing by His Spirit with His Church.

This is absolutely serious stuff!

By removing certain membership expectations by choosing not to be a “member” of any church organization I know (at least from my own perspective of the relationship) I will not disappoint their expectation of me not showing up to their meetings.

I mean for my own reasons I believe God is leading me to live by according to “His will” for my life (John 4:32-34) while at the same time I know I can still certainly meet with any of these Christians at other TIMES who like to attend churches that God puts into my life.

I am not separating myself from them spiritually as some might suggest because I share the same Head and Holy Spirit foundation as they do (Ephesians 4:1-7; Colossians 1:13-18).

Some Christians refuse to meet with me because they view me as not being “right” with God.

Why is that? Because I am in “sin”?

Nope, because like I said above they believe anyone not joining their church organization is in disobedience to them at least and at worst even to God.

When I press them further to find if they believe if I am “sinning” against God by not attending their organized “fellowship” meetings they normally won’t go that far.

Good for them because I believe that is dangerous!

But some do go that far and that is a serious problem. I am not saying it is my problem at all but theirs because they have to answer to Him Personally for claiming to represent Him in judgment of any “sin” in my life (1 Corinthians 4:1-5; Romans 14:4; 1 John 2:26-27).

You get the picture.

You decide for yourself who is truly promoting “unity of the Spirit” and who is promoting division in His Church as Paul explains in Ephesians chapter 4.

I am open to Strategically Ally myself to any “part” of Jesus’ Church as He directs me by His Spirit.

I can certainly meet with any of those Christians living in my area (or out of the area) in some different WAY, or at some different PLACE or some different TIME than they may expect in a church setting if God so directed.

You can too.

You know what I have found that some Christians have not yet found on their own?

God is quite happy with His Church meeting with each other for many of the same purposes (THINGS TO DO) in different WAYS, different PLACES and different TIMES as long as He is still leading them “first place in everything” (Colossians 1:13-18).

In fact, I have found that when a disciple of Jesus wants to truly “walk in the same manner as He walked” that most organized church settings are not allowing the MULTITUDES of OTHER THINGS TO DO that Jesus wants us to DO or practice in His name as His disciples because the setting is just not appropriate or just not OPEN to it being practiced “in the same manner as He walked” (1 John 2:3-6).

That is problematic to Jesus if all that was expected by these Christians was what could be done at an organized church event.

You will learn at Pokyra how to benefit from what I like to call a Meaningful Mission.

I explain this most important practical benefit to you under the link in this First Time Visitor’s TOUR titled, “Step 2 – What’s the most important practical benefit for you?”

Long story short, I am now free to practice more meaningful things “in the same manner as He walked” in more meaningful ways, at more meaningful places and at more meaningful times as God might lead me by His Spirit during any week of life.

But because I have chosen not to Routinely attend an organized church I suddenly have MORE OPTIONS for living life and not less.

For example, consider the obvious time benefits of having weekends and Wednesday nights free from my Routine Weekly Schedule now available for other Meaningful Missions with all of my highest Priority Area relationships and Strategic Alliance relationships with other Christians.

I already explained to you briefly above about what I am serving here at Pokyra in the section titled, “Where does Pokyra fit into Your Life In 3D?” (John 15:1-8; 1 John 2:3-6).

I recommend checking out the entire First Time Visitors TOUR at your leisure and the rest of the Guest Website links for even more details of how Pokyra could benefit your life.

WARNING! Pokyra is not “church as usual”!

In discernible spiritual contrast to “church as usual,” I teach you how to live FREE “in the same manner as He walked” in ANY environment in the world and how to ask what the “will of My Father who is in heaven” truly is each day and each changing season of life on earth so you will be right where God wants you “at all times in the Spirit” (1 John 2:3-6; Galatians 5:1; Ephesians 6:18; 1 John 2:26-27).

In the process of training you to receive what I like to call Your Life In 3D “in the same manner as He walked” in real practice and fruit I help you to no longer fear Jesus’ scariest message to anyone calling Him, “Lord, Lord,” in Matthew 7:21-27.

Why is that? Because you can trust me more than other Christians? Nope! That would be like trading one “church as usual” relationship for some other “church as usual” relationship.

So, no, it has nothing to do with your trust in me or anyone else but Jesus and the Father first (1 Corinthians 4:1-5; Romans 14:4; Jeremiah 17:5-8; John 15:1-8).

It has everything to do with your trust in Jesus “first place in everything” and you NOW living SPIRITUALLY CONNECTED to Jesus Himself by His Spirit … the Leader of His own Church and not anyone else’s “church” first. Do you see where this is going?

It doesn’t matter which environment you live inside the world because the truth is anyone can live CONNECTED or DISCONNECTED to Jesus in 3D in any environment. Just know for sure that you can always TRUST HIM and “abide in Him” “blessed” (Jeremiah 17:5-8) by His Holy Spirit living “in you”.

He Himself calls you by name and tells you not to fear by the GREATER power of His ONE Spirit of God at work in your life (1 John 2:26-27; 2 Corinthians 13:5; 1 John 4:4; 5:9; 1 Corinthians 2:4-5).

I am not the CONNECTOR and I cannot guarantee your CONNECTION only Jesus and the Father can make Personally with you (Matthew 11:25-30) but I do serve any sincere seeker of Jesus and their daily, weekly, monthly and seasonal devotion from their heart to Him and His Gift (D2) to better “tune-in” and CONNECT anyone He chooses to “know” just as He invited us in Matthew 11:25-30.

That is what I am serving at Pokyra, and when done right it is also what other churches are serving according to their unique purposes serving your #1 Priority Area (God) in 3D relationship and #5 Priority Area (Neighborhood/Network) in 3D relationships within their own unique cultural versions of Your Life In 3D … I mean real 3D services that “church as usual” is discernibly not serving “in the same manner as He walked” (1 John 2:3-6).

Last point:  In my over 35 years as a Christian I have found that it is extremely rare that any “church as usual” “Christian” would actually admit they even have a problem with Jesus the Leader of His Church.

That would get kind of “tricky” to manage relationally as a Christian, you think (John 9:39-41; 10:1-30)?

I mean if they actually don’t believe they have a problem but actually believe Jesus or even we have the problem and not them, what is the appropriate way to relate to them … I mean those I am referring to as “church as usual” here at Pokyra?

As always, a disciple of Jesus should ALWAYS respond to “church as usual” Christians like Jesus did.

The main reason is that if they persecute you like they persecuted Him you will be “blessed” just as He was “blessed” for it in a world that hates Him (Matthew 5:10-12).

For example, consider the way Jesus interacted with the Pharisees.

Before you get a “vision” of Jesus being like some English Gentleman as the ONLY response to a Pharisee Christian (a false impression that takes only part of Jesus’ example and not ALL of His example), check out Jesus’ example of dealing with a Pharisee in Matthew 15:1-14.

Clearly He offended them but didn’t care because it was “for the sake of righteousness” just as John the Baptist offended the Pharisees that came to him too (Matthew 3:7-12).

A disciple should always refer a Pharisee type Christian to Jesus “first place in everything” as Paul did in 1 Corinthians 4:1-5 and Romans 14.4 and do it “in the same manner as He walked”.

Speak any truth God by His Spirit tells you to speak in love and in any manner of Jesus’ possible examples in the Bible, then get out of their way and Jesus’ Way to them.

Then, simply continue to walk FREE like Jesus continued to walk free after an encounter with a Pharisee. No doubt it was at times intense.

Continue living your life of faith and freedom like Jesus did in this world as a “member” of His Church relating to OPENING and already OPEN to Jesus Christians by the Spirit of God.

We as Jesus’ disciples are to honor Jesus “first place in everything” at all times, including loving others as He loves them (John 13:34-35; Luke 9:51-56) no matter who else is honoring Him as He requires (John 21:21-22).

Paul’s example in 1 Corinthians 4:1-5 and Romans 14:4 is always a great place to start or continue your response to Christians wanting nothing to do with the ONE REAL THING offered from the ONE REAL Jesus and ONE REAL Holy Spirit sent to us from the Kingdom of Heaven (2 Corinthians 11:2-4).

I recommend studying my favorite example from Paul (other than Jesus’ own BEST example of course) of how to walk FREE like Jesus in the midst of some “Christian” environment that really wants nothing SPIRITUALLY to do with Jesus or His Holy Spirit in Paul’s letter to the Philippians 2:19-21 and 3:1-21.

Depending on how deep you wanted to go with this issue of how to navigate your way in what I like to describe as His Way Out of all your problems regarding “Christianity” today (I go deeper in my Discerning the Sky Land in Portal 2), I would also recommend Paul’s textbook example written to the Galatians.

You will learn how Paul, a Jewish Pharisee who happened to run into Jesus as recorded in Acts 9:1-27, related to persecutors of Jesus because Paul himself was a persecutor of Jesus and knew quite well the dangers of leaving Jesus for the way of the Law separate from Jesus’ Gift (D2).

Paul explains how to relate to a Christian who once walked “well” with Jesus rightly but suddenly were choosing to leave Jesus and His Spirit (His Gift I call D2) for something else. Paul’s letter to the Galatians is found in the New Testament part of the Bible.

The Galatians were Christian Jews just like the original 12 disciples were Jews.

But in the process of leaving Jesus and His Gospel for their old life under the Jewish Law (I view this as just another version of the “John 6 TEST” given by Jesus) Paul the Jewish Christian explained to them in words a Jew should understand that they were in effect making Jesus’ Gift (D2) “of no benefit” to them anymore (Galatians 5:2-9).

Can you imagine who would even want to “steal, kill and destroy” the “benefit” of what Jesus was offering His Church (John 10:10)?

Where was this BAD INFLUENCE coming from, anyway?

Do you remember the “leaven of the Pharisees” Jesus warned His disciples about in Matthew 16:5-12? Paul used the same “a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough” in Galatians 5:8-9 to warn of the same exact SOURCE of their problems.

Jesus has this same “leaven of the Pharisees” problem with His Church today.

I help you navigate it successfully here at Pokyra as Jesus has taught me so far.